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Why are all the non-babe characters so disgusting?
February 16, 2016
11:26 am
Eveanne
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This is something I've wondered for years. The women victims in your comics are, by far, the absolute hottest of all the comics I've seen from dofantasy.  So why is just about every other character, whether male or female, depicted as some totally disgusting, fat, smelly pig that never bathes, or even wipes their own asses? Some are even big mentally challenged overgrown baby Lenny types, or worse.  Why not depict them as characters that are somewhat less than repulsive? There are plenty of artists that do this and it certainly doesn't detract from the horrific things they enduring.  Yes, there are a few here and there but the vast majority are totally gross. 

February 16, 2016
2:22 pm
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Interesting point, Eveanne.  Your "Lenny" reference reminds me of the kid in The Weird Family comic who definitely does not wipe his own ass (if you think about the toilet scene).  Also there's that dude in Invaders with the giant cock who also fits the Lenny mold.  Of course on the female side there are all kinds of repulsive lesbo characters who victimize the main damsels in distress.  I suppose these characters are here to contrast with the hotness of the main damsels in distress and to heighten said damsels' degradation since a lady so hot would never by choice have sex with characters so physically repulsive.  

I do, however, feel that there are other auxillary characters within his comics that are not gag-me-with-a-spoon disgusting, but the vast majority of these are male, as any female characters that are not straight-up repulsive are purely there to be victimized.  

Perhaps, Eveanne, you could further clarify your position on this issue, as no one else has brought this up before and it is an interesting point.thumbsup

February 16, 2016
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I use the name Lenny in reference to John Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men" with characters like the one you mentioned in mind but there are others as well, such as in Cheerleaders 7, and Confiscated Twins 3.  Even if they are not mentally challenged characters, with a few exceptions, the overwhelming majority of "abusers" are like I described.  I'm not suggesting these characters should be buff superhero types either.  When I read these comics (and I do over and over and over) in my mind I want to escape into the role of characters I can relate to or identity with I guess.  I just want them to not be the kind I who are so unpleasant that I would rather skip those pages rather than risk losing the mood the comic has put me into up to that point.  In other words, they kill my horniness.  Lol

February 16, 2016
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Hi Eveanne,

Welcome to this forum and for your point of view on this issue.

However, I could not disagree more!

I do not want to identify with those characters. To me it is like fernandofan said above. The more “lenny” a male character is, the hotter a scene gets. It is this ambivalence of beautiful women on the one hand and totally disgusting male characters on the other hand who would never ever have a chance on those women otherwise. However, fortune is nice to them and this is just nice to watch. Because the female characters hate it even more.

By the way the male character in TC is quite normal.

 

February 19, 2016
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I've thought about this too.  It's personal preference.  For me, I want the males to be strong and anywhere in the below-average to attractive range.  It doesn't add anything to me for the males to be less attractive (I'm pretty sure the girls aren't enjoying themselves either way).  It is a turn-off for the male to be weak or submissive (I think all males in fernando's comics have been strong enough and only one ended up being victimized in payback's a bitch, which is my least favorite comic), or for the male to be overly disgusting (Snot, poop, lazy eyes, drool, bits of food on face).  Most of the characters in fernandos comics don't cross that line for me, but there have been some where the disgustingness of the male made me want to not look at the page, and definitely detracted from the whole visual.  I'm good with the male being the last person on earth the girl wants, (like her worst enemy or kid she despised in school, etc) but the scene still needs to be fun to look at.  Since the male isn't the focus of my attention, there is a wide range of looks that are fine (as opposed to female, where they should all be smoking hot), but nothing that is bad enough to call attention to itself. 

 

As I said, it's all preference.  I'm generally in favor of sexy girls in sexy poses, so I tend to not like things that make it less fun to look at.  

February 22, 2016
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k64, you stated what I was trying to say but far more eloquently.  Thanks.

February 25, 2016
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Juxtaposition…wink

February 27, 2016
2:32 am
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I like when you have a nerdy type get the hot girls or a fat disgusting guy.  I think it adds to the humiliation.  Part of the fantasy is wanting these hot women and seeing guys who would have no chance get them. cool

April 10, 2016
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Yeah I really like the juxtaposition. I'm not for nerdy or young guys abusing the girls in these comics.

I'm more turned on by the disgusting, old (not senior old, but old enough to be father type) and large (either fat or husky). It just makes the girls feel all the more out of there element.

April 10, 2016
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This is an eternal argument. I get the idea of disgusting guys making the ordeals of the girls worse. However, beyond a certain point, they make looking at the pictures an ordeal for the reader. I'd prefer to see any kind of sex with physically attractive characters, which doesn't mean the guys have to be matinee idols or in any way less evil. While there's something to the "last guy on earth she'd ever want" approach, there''s also a possible source of tension when the bad guy IS someone the girl might want if he weren't the world's most evil bastard. The paradox of finding a hated tormentor nonetheless somewhat attractive can also add to the distress of his victim. Some of the hottest moments in Fernando's comics arise out of  the female characters' shame at experiencing orgasms from the acts of men they despise. I think there's some unexplored drama in making this a story element. It's easier to completely despise an ugly guy doing ugly things, but what goes through the girl's mind when she finds herself attracted to an evil man who does bad things to her she can't help be enjoy to some extent?

 

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