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X v Y: Ball Gags v Ring Gags
June 23, 2016
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So while we patiently await Fernando's return, and having gone through his material countless times – I wanted to just remember what it is I love about gags (namely ballgags) in bondage so much…and especially in Fernando's comics – to please my perverted ways.

On the whole, most people I talk to on the internet seem to prefer it for its function, the ability to muffle sound. That is great, especially when you don't want somebody "talking back".

For me personally, its the aesthetics. To see a beautiful young woman have her mouth spread wide open and stuffed while demeaning her humanity (removing ones ability to express their displeasure through speech) is so great to see. It put's an ere of defeat on the girl, that in addition to being tied up there is a finality to her hopelessness with the insertion of the gag. Perverts can do whatever they want to her and she cannot fight back.

But there is a sweet spot in the art of it, at least for me. Three factors to consider for maximum effectiveness is:

1) How big it actually is

2) How far in in sits the mouth

3) Her emotion *

*comes down to personal perversion

 

1) Sometimes a gag is too big, it disfigures a woman face and makes it unappealing, example below:

Either that or it is too small, in which there is too much space in the mouth, it allows a woman to talk, example below:

Neither are idea. The best size is the farthest you can go without disfiguring her face TOO much but allowing her top set of teeth to rest on top and over the ball.

 

2) As far as how back it sits, usually if its too small it will sit too back, same if it is too big too far forward. But  the other part of it has to do with how tightly it is strapped and how far back inserted. If it's too lose it will be pushed forward by her tongue, and too far out then the same. This unfortunately was the problem with my ex, she wasn't into BDSM but she tried bondage for me, as a gag fetishist this was the first thing I suggested but she was unwilling to go up to larger more desirable sizes.

 

Examples of this below:

 

Gorgeous girl, if only it was double the size…

3) Emotion: Here is where Fernando's art comes in. Unless you scour the internet or go on the deepweb (which btw I have no intention of doing) – outside of an orgasm face you will be hard pressed to find the right emotion's depicted – again purely personal preference here.

I don't know what happened in my childhood, but seeing absolutely terrified, shocked, scared girls turns me on like nothing else. Women are naturally overcome with emotional intensity, to have their expressions robbed from them in a sense and experienced while they are strictly bound and gagged satisfies me to no end. It's an added bonus if they are crying and drooling in their disbelief!

My most cherished scenes are those of the Cheerleader series, South of the Border, and weird family which showcase a properly drawn and sized gag with these emotions. Many scenes also show contemplative thoughts while their mouths are stuffed, super hot.

 

The look of fear, panic and disbelief in Dawn's eyes as she realizes where her sister has been kept for months is palpable and adds to the intensity of the scene. Given her inability to say anything to her own sister due to the gag in her mouth. That goes without saying that a stranger has them both tied up and exposed in his own make shift dungeon.

 

 

Again another beautiful panel is this one above. With some minor editing, Dawn looks completely defeated and forlorn as Assbuster is abusing her naked body from behind. The fullness of the gag just adds to the hopelessness in her face, rendering her unable to verbally defend herself. Moreover, it leaves her feminine lips spread out for her abusers enjoyment. Similarly, Anna is engaged and aware, in shock and horror as she watches her younger sister abused, yet, with all the will in the world she can only look on stuffed and mouth spread! Again, all in the emotion…these poor girls have been overpowered and dehumanized, only to be abused and used against their will. As women, they've been brought up with a sense of entitlement and safety, now that barrier has been untterly shattered.

 

Now am I saying there are no scenes, or images of beautiful real life woman gagged that aren't appealing? Not at all, in fact there are TONS of ball gag images with great aesthetically value, but again most lack the emotional intensity. Which is why I await the next installment in Fernando's publishing art.

 

 

 

   TLDR: Gagged women is the hottest thing in the world.

 

June 29, 2016
9:38 pm
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Wow Hansmoleman, great little essay about gags. I myself prefer the OTM gag or tape gag. Fernando does not illustrate them very often, in fact many BDSM artists don't. Probably due to the practicalities of them, as they would do little to muffle sounds. I do admit that if it were between ball or ring gags, ball gets my vote. However panel gags are another alternative. I just find OTM, panel or tape gags more aesthetically pleasing. I find Geoffrey Merrick's description of the aforementioned gags make them really effective. Particularly stuffing the damsels mouth with cloth (panties), or a ball, then sealing her lips with tape, and finally a cloth over her lips to further muzzle and muffle sound. Taking it even further, I love it when Fernando adds a noose, not for the asphyxiation, but more to restrict airflow, to further quieten her, adding to the gag…………hmmmmmm……perhaps I've given this too much thought. lol

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July 3, 2016
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A very impressive thesis paper on ball gags.  I too like them very much and they are the preferred gag for me when drawing gagged women.  If I had a sex slave I would also employ ring gags, as you can deepthroat the lass with no fear of feeling her pearly whites on your pecker—very FUNctional, indeed!  I do appreciate you sharing your expertise on gags, as I don't know much about them, other than seeing them in pictures and comics, so this helps me very much when it comes to portraying them in sketches.

I also think a cloth gag is hot as well, as it pinches the corners of the mouth inward and it must be quite unpleasant for the wearer, as there must be a lot of pressure from it being tied so tight at the back of her head.  Also, it leaves enough of her mouth exposed so that her pitiful whimperings can be more easily comprehended, which just adds to the hopelessness of her predicament.  

Btw, that last pic you posted was particularly hot—I'll have to check out the website listed on the bottom of the pic.  The chick is quite hot and I like the look of satisfaction on the dude's face—he's all like, "Yeah, that's right, bitch.  Nothing you can do but enjoy the ride!"

July 3, 2016
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I think you should not forget penis-gags in this discussion! I think depending on the size they must be the most ununpleasant ones.

 

July 4, 2016
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TBH, i'm a general fan of gags, the more the lips are covered the better for me, but they all have their uses…..enjoy…….let me know if i missed any. blink

 

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Man, Rud3b0y—these visuals definitely help!  Between you and Hansmoleman, I have gotten quite the education on gags. Now I just need a sex slave to try these gags on!smiley-sex020

July 7, 2016
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Thanks for bringing this thread back Hans, you've definitely upped the anti on this. To think this was my first thread, gosh I was so nervous back then.

July 8, 2016
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@Rudeboy

Of course OTM gags are very cute, they muffle a woman entirely! Some lovely images below:

 

 

But alas, the dainty soft and feminine nature of women is so nicely contrast with a hard, lewd ball gag uncomfortably stuffed inside them:

July 9, 2016
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Good points Hansmoleman. I do enjoy a good ball gag, but there is something so retro, alluring and hauntingly erotic about a pretty damsel with her mouth completely sealed. Cute yes but can be equally uncomfortable:

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Then again, the best of both worlds, mouth stuffed and then gagged wink

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